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-The first day I noticed that the prosecution practically signed the judgment. Do not know why it took six months looking, looking, looking, laments John O'Reilly.
It is the first in a series of interviews that the Legionnaires' Father John, John Cura, conspicuous among his parishioners-at with The Clinic to discuss the sexual abuse accusation that empowered the College Summit-Paula M-rose against and that the prosecution investigates Santiago East for six months. The meetings will run for two weeks and O'Reilly discuss his case, Maciel, of how the world came down, of death, of power and of the Legion. And repeat, like a mantra, "Dead Man Walking" to refer to their future.
The first meeting was in early December. One of the main complaints of O'Reilly then was that the prosecution had not called to testify, despite his defense of the lawyer Luis Hermosilla, had requested twice. Last week, finally, the priest said. He did it in a public hearing, in front of reporters.
That day the prosecutor Ignacio Pinto reported that there was a second complaint: the J's older sister, the girl of 6 who, say, have been abused by O'Reilly, on an unspecified date.
When he heard the first complaint?
-It was not a complaint. The 2010 lady approached because your child is actually quite special.
Were you approached?
-Exactly. And also the superior, Father Jose Cardenas. To him, a little, he expressed his animosity towards me, you have the right if you want. No talk of actual abuse, but that the deal, which tore a lot of classes.
That you took out a lot of the classes.
'No, no draw. The lady approached, because it is very special, and I was warned to be careful. But she told me not to take virtually into account both the little girl.
Why?
'Because the girl tore class when he could, at recess. Not that he had permission: instead of going to his pleasure, going with the secretaries. Sought love, affection, a crazy way. And the office I use is relatively close: there are six cubicles and secretaries are at the entrance. I've seen floating around, I've never cared obviously no single or anything, which is trying to mount the lady. I rang the bell and from that moment I had the total and absolute concern and never say hello to her and to no one in his family. Is personal protective thing, you know? What helped is that she went to first grade and is much neater. I had no contact because I avoided him. Sixth Sense. And began this public issue of pedophilia. I also stopped receiving children at the door. I said I do not want anyone hang anything, you know?
What had warned of the attorney? He says that was problematic, how?
'Well, that was problematic because it has two or more triplets over a girl. She went far to school. Has trouble with many teachers. Came and got, and schools can not enter.But Porter befriended and secretaries. And one day when the girl he forgot his lunch the other day and went to the same room and, one day, up in the row and the column was left behind to check on her daughter and so on, so forth. Then I have said that I've always hated, do not know why. One theory is that she wanted me to Pescara more, not fished. What happens is that there are people at school who are closer and there is more dialogue. With it there has never been any dialogue. This is the first part of the story, this is documented. The second, the drama begins June 22 kinds, the day I had heart surgery. The last two years, blackout: he knew nothing and avoided when the saw.
And this was extended to the rest of the family? Do not catch the mother or the child?
'Absolutely. Now, I'm not so stupid. I retired from the door and work with large, then there was not much reason to see them. This year, in June, she has very bad behavior and our psychologists began to see what was wrong. And then she was sent to a psychologist who said that it could be abused, in a report of four lines. It should be noted that. I know of psychology but four lines ...
What did you hear?
-That the lady had taken her to a psychologist and the lady was concerned that the psychologist had indicated that the child had been abused or could have been. Now, this story comes from much earlier also the first time we spoke. When the lady told me the first time, she had her doubts about the child abuse.
If you abused?
-No. But dialogue with me about it, she says it was violent, but in fact it was not.
And who says "being accused"?
-I leave the clinic after surgery and go to the house of a friend who helped me a lot to thank him and he says he had a complaint. But strictly no charge at the time. What happens is that the lady was with this thing in mind: my girl is ill today because I was abused for two years. He hit things. With the bad luck that a psychologist came in four lines and said the girl had been abused. And then I go into shock. And spent a month, where yes, no, that Dad did not want to, then a psychologist said no, that there is nothing and that yes, that. One month as well. And in that month asked a lawyer to see what was happening, and did absolutely nothing, I was told that the father wanted nothing but the lady was nervous. And a weekend home of Andres Serrano contacted my lawyer Luis Hermosilla and we decided to make the complaint.
Is that complaint is made ​​by the school?
'Yes. We made ​​it simultaneously.
So what happened when it appeared in the press?
-There are two levels. One, simply human. I could practically walk. I was absolutely destroyed. It came over the world. Thank God they took me to a psychiatrist who helped me. It's the worst thing that can happen to someone, be accused is innocent, that is what I will say to the last day, but put me in jail.
I was being accused of sexual abuse of a child.
-A false accusation regarding the abuse of children, is an unnatural act. You feel no person, rotten. And here comes the anger. Another level is that of faith. But this also helped a lot: if God permits, good for nothing. I've had 38 years of priesthood very good, so if this kind of drama goes, I have no right to complain. Would have to give thanks for the 38 years. Lord knows if I want to let you finish the days in jail. Sorry a bit so overblown, exaggerated, but he'll know. Because I'm going to repeat something he loaded: I have a clear conscience. I say that because load anyone can tell. But I'm really quiet before the Lord and to society.
To accuse someone of sexual abuse, pedophilia is the worst. Is categorical.
'Absolutely. A scourge, Not a person. Dead man walking. And let him keep walking, which is worse. Because if a bullet hit him, the issue is over.
The second case
at the hearing last week where O'Reilly said, the prosecutor said Pinto had joined another case: the older sister of J. A ten year old girl that six months into the investigation also said to have been abused by the priest.
Do you know this girl?
-At school we have about 2000 girls and men. I've never seen, never any dealings with her. If I see it happen, I'm not sure locate.
The stood. Because before said he had to keep her distance.
- At the J. I never had personal contact with her. I can having placed in the context of his other four brothers.
How the school has behaved in this?
'Well. What can you do at school? There is a single family who has left school, because they wanted a different formation, and took her to Grange. There is a belief that this case is a fabrication. Even in Zero Tolerance said the first time is very rare. I imagine that a second case also, the same family, and why now, why not before. At least gives to think.
How do you see the future? What is the future of O'Reilly?
-I have not the slightest idea. I'm not in the hands of superiors, but of justice. Long ago I said I wanted to talk to you because I was watching the establishment, which made ​​depending on the day. I do not care establishment. So I wanted to give the interview.Hopefully in a little fresh air in this. Now I have 65 years, what happens in the future?I have no idea. I say that I can die. But I do not think. It scares me. All I want is you in or out of jail, give at least a little light for other people mistreated by the prosecution.No make a wish foundation but a group of professionals who could handle cases free.A person abused or not treated well, and that at least the prosecutor know you have a lawyer at your convenience, that the issue is not free. I refer to the unjustly accused. At least for costing them more

MACIEL
Would you weigh much today his defense of Maciel?
-What happens is that the data they had when they spoke of Maciel were the Vatican, they really only had sent her home to rest, there was no conviction. Now, reading, one is a bit more lively. But keep in mind this was the first major pedophilia.
What image does Maciel now?
-Pena and some anger.
Rabies? Why?
-Why make us go through this ordeal. Do you understand? An act of God, because it would not exist. But on the other hand, he also, me, anybody, man, is part of a mystery, partake of the mystery of God, is a nice idea, but really as Dostoyevsky says, man is neither good nor bad , there is a bit of good and evil or much within the person.
You knew him sick.
'Pretty.
And you never see anything?
'Nothing, absolutely.
You ate together in Rome.
'Not exactly. I was one of those who served the table. It was an honor to serve the board founder. Everything he did looked good. The facts were overwhelming, came cardinals, the Pope went to school to see 600 seminarians ...
How about the double life he had? Ladies have appeared, silvers, drug.
, I think a psychiatrist must examine that.
And the Legion, Maciel survive without?
- Will it survive? I'm sure it is. When it exploded the second case, that is the children ... Because to tell you the truth, in the first case, pedophilia, many years ago, yes, no, what captures me? At least for me was that it might if it were true, as you may not, that is, the Vatican did not condemn him. But in the second case, the children, there was nothing else to do. When it appeared the Standard (Hilda Baños, mother of a daughter of Maciel), and, bye: there anywhere. After that, if still standing the Legion, is a matter of God. And now I think so, you are walking. But we must ask in ten years.
I imagine he is sorry for having defended him.
'Absolutely. I defended myself and was absolutely convinced.
I was blinded. Was dogmatic. When falls Maciel, have you dropped the world?
'Look not.
Let's see: sexual abuse, morphine, lady, money, children.
'Yes, but my personal world did not fall because, honestly, I followed Christ and came across a legionary on the road. It could have been a Jesuit. My responsibility is to God, not with Father Maciel. There was pain, but it was moving the floor of my faith.
Maciel? Believe in God?
'It's a tremendous mystery. I think so. I think it was blinding power.
I ask this because if goes with the backdrop of Maciel.
, also.
This lady to speak to your superior tells him, and indeed quotes, you had contact with Maciel.
'That's why I had to explain it. She also says that when it comes to a condo and talking to a friend about what school to put their children, likes school, "the Mexican pedophile". If a pedophile, how can put their children in school for a pedophile?
Why do people become legionary in Chile?
-I think our anthropological view is very close to humans. It is the core of everything.The outlook on life: a God who loves us, who loves us, whose commandments are not to annoy, but-as-good doctor to heal. And the certainty that this life is meaningless because there is a resurrection.
The big criticism that I have always done is they have an option for the rich.
'Yes. And that's half true.
The millionaires of Christ, they say.
'Exactly. But is that we, and that part is written somewhere, we start from the vertex to the base. There is here no double reading.
Is expressed.
'But I would say that much has changed over time. You start at the top, too, because they also have efficacy, rights, soul. Why exclude the rich from the poor? But poverty is extremely tucked into our spirituality. All schools in the district have a corresponding high school elsewhere. Mano Amiga schools.
SUICIDE
You say you're being convicted of a tax system and unfair. Why?
-If not for my lawyer, I should be in jail a while, convicted of anything. It's a shame they do not have a case because the girl has no story, she said at least four times and has not said anything, and then, wham, the same day introduce another. There is something rotten in the kingdom of Denmark. I refer not to the family, they are entitled. But there must be a check on prosecutors, are not all-powerful. And priests have been convicted, say, unfairly. Who controls? Every day my lawyer tells me what is new research. It concluded that the girl quickie was never alone with me. And it's hard to abuse someone if it has not been touched. And yet, the prosecutor waited four months to make the test of truth. For me the test is the same as the tax: is biased, do not know why they have to. You are being abused. And possibly in my case, are more damaging to the J. The interrogated again and again. Faced with his silence, trying to squeeze a truth imaginary. Why waste time? Above, the prosecutor tried to badly our school officials. The secretaries. But luckily these secretaries are well choras and said such statements are not going to sign, not ours. It happened with one of the moms exactly the same.
What gives this explanation, why the prosecution acts like that?
-The State. I think the prosecution is managed from above. I believe that, yes maybe being legionnaire'm paying.
Why?
'Tell me, what happened to the cure of hunger strike in Curico?
I do not know.
'Nobody knows anything. I was interested because I was going to do the same.
Strike??
-Strike. But are the things that come to mind. What happens is that when you live a situation, according to one of extreme injustice, is capable of anything. And I understand why people are throwing eighth, the tenth floor.
When there is nothing to do.
Suicide.
-Suicide. Let's see: not justify. But I understand that some lose all sense of life and get dizzy. A person is also going down tremendously going crazy. But I see a mole in front.That Chahuan Sabas, which gives them all the same thing.
ROSARIO MUCH
Have you been approached someone from the Church?
'Yes. Priests. Very good friends.
Legionaries??
-No, the Legionaries help when they can, which is not much. Make your paste. I'm happy with them. They have contributed at least from the outside as one would like, but overall good. What has been is the diocesan clergy, friends who call constantly.What I have seen in my own world-in can be very different, is support: when we go out for coffee, people come and say hello, stop the car. One would say that there are two small disappointments. One for graduation, because I left the Summit, but girls, 120, passed a list asking to make the Mass and I was sad that two no sign. Stupid me, silly me, sensitivity, gave me a lot can. Can that they would walk clueless, or were not, so I have not understood a rejection. But just do not know. I would have thought that we are more loyal and more people to support the weak, the poor. That was the issue, more than me.
What about the other disappointment?
-From a family of Mass and rosary daily and all day, he sent a letter to a priest asking that I do not celebrate the Mass, there is an investigation. I was disappointed so much because if these people are so religious and concerned, the first thing is: talk to me. This applies to all humans. The test of honesty of our praises or complaints is to first talk to the person concerned. If the back and smelly. That is the work of Satan, pray more rosaries. Maybe not ill will, either. It's a detail but it's part of our life. Be honest.
But for example, approach the persecuted, not something you particularly remember the legionnaires. To say nothing of its founder.
-Ya. He was busy with other things he says ironically.
It was rather pursuer.
'Yes and no.
But is the vocation of the legion? Is your mission?
'Yes, it is. It is assumed that the center is charity. The issue of the poor is bit by bit.Perhaps now is an annex, but really there are schools and every Saturday we Forming Chile this group, go to two Helping Hand in Recoleta. We will also missions. But it has developed. On time. For lack of people. For negligence. For many things.
Before they were more focused on the establishment.
'Exactly. And gradually being expanded, without denying either our help to people in the neighborhood who also have high need. I know people very valuable, very good, very worried.
My point is that now you discovered the persecuted.
, indeed. So one always learns, can I handle? But I also discovered faith. Not only persecuted.
Did you discover faith?
'Yes.
Ya.
-The depth of faith. Sometimes when I'm in a good mood and I think if they put me in jail for A, B or C, to die in prison, well: that's it. I'm pragmatic. I met great people, too, people who play it as background and every experience I have come much closer to the suffering. Also visit on weekends psychiatric clinics, two. At other times visiting Capuchin. What happens is that one thing is to visit, help. Another thing is to live it.
Fernando Karadima Did you know?
'Very little. He welcomed us when we arrived but quickly began to fight.
You made ​​the competition and ended up being better fundraiser.
'Exactly. When I arrived, three years after he founded here, not going to the Forest.But hey, it was hailed as a marriage, never went to see him, and he did to me.
Complaints you surprised?
-At first attention. What happens is that there are also styles, there are things about certain people, you know? That one at least not like them. Then it is easier to have more insight than I could spend.
PARADISE
"Chile is a paradise movements," says O'Reilly.
Why?
-The Spanish brought to the priests, and the priests were quite awake. Large families have a deep religiosity, doctrinaire. And Chile is like Ireland is an island. It is protected from the many streams. Sometimes, even today, the fashion of Europe comes out here when there.
When did Chile?
-year 84.
Dictatorship, protests.
'Yes, and that issue cacerolazos.
And dead .
Undead.
How do you see?
'For me it was quite a shock. In Europe, Chile spoke enough of what had happened and had some information. But upon arrival, I had to work in this area (uptown), minus Saturday morning, going to the Pincoya. And there was not so difficult, because it was morning. But it was a painful situation and especially because there was a town divided: Plaza Italia and Plaza Italia top down, etc.. But in those years began Cardinal Fresno, and there was talk of plebiscite, there was hope. And the Pope's visit was wonderful.
Pinochet defended Maciel.
'At least there is no record that we have said that we had to support it. That was pretty careful. Same with Franco or any politician.
But there was a critical, either. What was the Legion look toward dictatorship? You married the son of a senior member of the regime.
'I'd say, several. Who. Jaime del Valle. But the only soldier I met was Ballerino, because a friend of a friend.
Pinochet Did you know?
-Yes. When blessed Development University, Las Condes then. Several times I saw him in blessings, public events. In Apoquindo, first communions, because he had his grandchildren there. Never been to La Moneda. Greeted him with great respect.
Why are entrepreneurs Legionaries and Opus Dei? What do you see?
-Each congregation has its own charisma. I'd say we have a vision, like many other groups, positive, cheerful. I loaded word: optimism. A nice view of life.
They accuse them of being light.
'Sure, but behind it there is not much light. You have to work as a mule to do. Maybe it can be a virtue adapt philosophical or theological concepts in everyday language.
Do they have fewer demands in practice that the Opus Dei
-The fact is that everyone needs.
But here there is no silicon.
'But does every crazy as you want. Each one is called and takes this way. But I prefer to talk to others about it. In my view, I think our vision of Christ is the crucified Christ, but also of one who has risen, that gives us life, accompanying, friend and love for this friend, hopefully not sin, because sin I I hurt myself. Natural law and the law of God are the same issue.
HUNGER STRIKE
O'Reilly arrives at the second session upset because a couple of deputies want to legislate cuts priest's convictions as Spiniak Tato and not repeated. He says it's populism, they should worry about what happens in the CAVA and prosecutors.
Have you ruled out doing a hunger strike? I mentioned twice.
'You can not rule anything out. For the greater good. When you find a situation like mine, think of everything. I mean, in honor of justice. I am also pursued. Maybe I'm too shallow but there is a clear theme: to me the prosecutor has investigated me and I feel good. It may be unfair or not, but you are entitled. What about the other side?Would not it be convenient if children have psychologist and this and that, to see how is the family? Or how are the people who accuse? In good. I have researched and have every right. But why not investigate other hypotheses? And other things that are more obvious to many people.
What if a good resolution, believes the world back to the same thing?
-No.
Why?
-An accusation of this level short life forever. Is it really kill a person. The first month I could barely lift. All he asked was to die. In books I have seen people who have suffered the same, no suicides, I think it is wrong for those who have faith. The suffering will be worth. A priest told me something I liked: everything you need to water it has sown with the blood of Christ. It's a pretty picture. I wish it were so, it would be fantastic. If there is no objective scientific formula to see whether there is abuse, lack of objective parameters to determine their existence, we are lost. Let's see how to extend these cases.
And how he sees his accusers?
-A children, sympathetically. I am very sorry to have to go through this. I have no grudge. And parents: he has been very correct and must be respected lady, see what happens.
What about tax?
-I do not know. I would ask why I pursued. Nothing more. And if he thinks it will go up chasing two points, three points.
And being a legionnaire? Would you weigh?
-I think so. The mother says in the lawsuit that was enough for her to say that I had done something wrong with her ​​daughter to liquidate all Legionaries. It's in the complaint. We still live the theme of Father Maciel. Also, when you're wrong, you're stuck in the ground. And things have been super strong: our secretaries have challenged the. One lady said that when he came to testify, the prosecutor thought he was coming for his girl and the opposite. No, my child anything to do. And there were cries. With the bad luck that knew her husband, also a lawyer and raised a complaint with the regional prosecutor.
Can not this end in his departure from the Legion?
-No.
Have you ever?
'I hope not. Right now I'm a dead man, but I'm talking about. I have no project. I try to invent, but it's enough to distract me, as the Catholic dream that one day will win.
What do you think of celibacy?
-fact not an essential part of the priesthood but is a necessary part. It's not about sex, but about giving love.
Do you think the Church is not going to evolve there, with priests who can marry?
'Could be. Strictly speaking, yes, because it is not essential. But see through the other side. Anglicans can be married, have problems like we vocations. Not that ...
But I do not know if abused.
abuse-is that if they are priests, does not work. Not worth it. How many reports are there? If not a cure, it will not. The other day, I had a joke of Mercury when awarded, among others, the prosecutor Pinto. Titled, "Prosecutor investigates O'Really, awarded". There, at least, neglect, are abused free dignity of a priest. But back to celibacy: I have this conviction and I lived well.
THE PROSECUTOR
Did you see the file?
'My lawyer has told me.
Why does it say that this case falls?
'Because there are no arguments. When you have made ​​the child exams, she said nothing. There is a story, despite six months of indoctrination, although psychologists who have vowed to work against the Church, against us, against me. I do not know what more they look, maybe my grandparents. I have no problem to investigate, but to investigate everything. And now, just when this is over, invent this. That Mr. prosecutor did not see that, I think straight ill will. Or at least discuss it. And is then constantly hampering the development of the case.
Cramping? Resolution?
-as not to reach a conclusion. I would give the impression that it wants to pull forward because you may know that you have no grip. But I'll worry-wherever he is, in prison, where-publishing the full case: all that has been said the lady, what saith the Lord, the prosecutor, everything. And the people decide.
A bad will?
'Absolutely ill will. Supposedly there is a principle that considers all innocent until proven otherwise. Here is completely backwards. The prosecutor Pinto broke it and said O'Reilly, guilty. Never cared for the lady and investigate an alternative hypothesis.There lullabies extraneous data at least to look at. Do not know if it's important, but has some data, right? Where does this? And basically what happens to Mrs. Paula M.that came from Mexico is a different educational system that does not fished in the Summit.
How?
'She would say, thought to have super children, who were the top, and never accepted that deep, with an effort to make them top, broke its development and is looking for excuses everywhere. And maybe it was my turn to bad luck. It is a very sensitive issue.A murder is. It can kill people abused children, but also to those falsely accused. I see a lot farandulización when something serious. Nobody says nonsense when someone dies. There is a certain respect for the dead. Here, no. Never mind throwing mud.
And why would he Pinto ill will?
-I would love to ask because some people have said that they are good people. There are people who would not listen, he told someone that if they come to speak well of Father John, I'm not interested.
Why do you say that professionals have participated are enemies of the Legion?
-I say that there is a website, the great foundation, where Ana Eugenia Chevarría psychologist who examined the child. They claimed to be anti church, anti legionaries, anti cure. Makes the evaluation and treatment takes over until today, twice a week.
POWER
On a Sunday, O'Reilly gets upset by Carlos Peña column in El Mercurio, who has mentioned. The rector UDP wondered what will be the cure. "It surprises me greatly that a person who is declared lover of individual liberties, says O'Reilly, has failed to investigate instead of asking where I am. It's easy, go and ask my lawyer or go to the prosecutor, I'm sure Mr. Prosecutor would be happy to put you on top of everything we've done. "
If as you say, you go free from blame, do you think that would be as influential as before?
-is that the blow is so hard. To me, pardon the confidence, if I do not sleep at night, what do I do? I cry. Thumper is a subject so that I do not care, but not under.
Are claiming their human rights by you.
'Absolutely, human rights. What I'm wondering here is why I am a priest the prosecutor had something against me but can not translate? I have something against some people but that does not give me permission to go to his house burn.
A while ago we cited the sermon that says that first brought the Communists but I did not care because it was not. You supported the Pinochet government. Or was sympathetic. But he did nothing.
'No, absolutely. In hindsight, I would say that happened and I am not alone. When I got to 84, I landed in an environment and sorry for my superficiality, where things worked well, that Pinochet was well and everything was perfect.
It was perfect.
'No, but then we realized. Right? And not only I can tell. Mr. Chadwick recently said he was sorry, after twenty years. So we must also take into account the situations. We can not accuse us all of being more acute, worried. But sometimes one is good and then everyone says it is, rather than some brave they say I do not think so. And this applies to Pinochet and others. You also could have turned and put five lines of the cure.
We are interested in history.
'But is consistency. It is a form of not being excluded. And that support is not to look the other way. There are others who have the right and looking the other way if they want.
You did nothing in 80. Could have done things.
'Certainly. I mean ... I do not know if the 80 in the end. Very honestly say I do not know at what time I came to the same conclusion that everyone, as part of the nation.The first time Pia Guzman spoke about human rights and the right in the 90s was a escandalazo. I apologize. I felt part of society alive, not dead like today. And that's what stimulates me and somehow if I could notice something, help in other cases of justice and not in the field that is, rich, poor, whatever. For the basis of society, is justice. Upsets injustice, violence. If the State does not do justice the danger is that people get justice.
You were a powerful man until this happened.
- ...
Yes
-Let's see, what happens is that power generally falls in seconds and power our not ours. Did I handle? In the background is from above. I do not want to talk something spiritual. One can influence. But the influence, the vast majority of people I know have been able to meet people I have spiritually, also had coffee.
But it was powerful. Influential.
'That itself is a topic at the moment I do not care. I would not say under my detachment. There is something so strong but there are things like this, which for me is death. The first few months all I ask in the evening was not waking up. That is life. The issue of power, then, at this point is useless.
TOWEL
There are statements that say you asked some girls to go to his office and a couple of people say they asked the J
-No. We split: actually occasionally asked me to accompany groups of girls, basically if it was not for Mass in the morning, was to visit the virgin.
With first and last name?
-No. It is normally not. Sometimes, yes. But usually it was the teacher that decided who was boss. And sometimes sent to the course, the entire course, and she. There is no record anywhere that has called the J, even though it was hovering. I walked away from it long ago. The two days of the week I was walking, on more than one occasion I have seen and the two secretaries say, mom was there.
An official, Susana Bravo, says the requested twice. Did he?
'Let's see if Susana says, yes. I am not aware. She was not alone. No one ever would.
There is talk of a practice and said that bothered when I said no. That says another teacher.
'What happens is that there is another element. I should say a specific name, if they told me that the girl was a birthday and then called it, but with peers. But I do not know if you could have called the J, I could not deny, do not remember. But it can be.And she, the J, was proximity to the secretary.
There is a statement that appeared in the press of a young woman who tells you he took her hand and besuqueaba. What about this situation?
-By nature, not kiss hands. Great or greater. I doubt it. Unless you shake hands, but what is absolutely deny any kind of friendship or erotic connotation beyond.
But is up to you to get out of the door, is it just because the child is ill or because Cardenas talks about sexual abuse?
-No, it is a completely personal decision. Coward, if you want. In the morning instead of getting children to read the newspaper reached. For what I'm risking my age, anyone ...
How lasting believes this?
- How much? I just feel, perceive, unless that between a miracle, I'm just a bait, bait.So where useful. Unless acted upon by an authority to say "we want justice, we want a normal trial" ... If not, this may be infinite. Because if the prosecutor fails on one thing, will invent another. And another. And another. Do you understand? I do not see the prosecutor throwing in the towel. Although it is ridiculous.